Posts by Brokeback Watchtower

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Is Satan Real ?

by jdash in

i've been pondering on this question for awhile now, and i'm starting to think this malevolent spirit creature isn't real.

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do you guys believe satan is real?

I tend to view Satan as Jehovah's shadow. Clearly this Jehovah character dreamed up during the Bronze age has a huge shadow in his unconscious due to denial and a huge ego complex as well as an over compensating inferiority complex. Jehovah has a massive power drive and anybody who questions him or doesn't give him abject obedience he projects his own evil, which he is in denial of, upon that person and makes them justifiable fair game for his cruel wrathful punishment and death(don't dare pick up sticks to make a fire on Saturday the penalty is death according to ancient biblical Jehovah).

Satan is a scapegoat which Jehovah can hang all his evil hidden(through denial) in his personal shadow on. I think the book of Job gives us a clear view of Jehovah's insanity and megalomania as well as other personality flaws which was responsible for Job's intense suffering.

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No Bible = No God?

by menrov in

some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

would you still believe in a creator?.

Brokeback Watchtower

I have no need to believe in a creator, while believing the Bible is just production of man's psyche. Quote from C G Jung book "Answer To Job" :

"The absence of human morality in Yahweh is a stumbling block which cannot be overlooked, as little as the fact that Nature, i.e., God’s creation, does not give us enough reason to believe it to be purposive or reasonable in the human sense. We miss reason and moral values, that is, two main characteristics of a mature human mind. It is therefore obvious that the Yahwistic image or conception of the deity is less than that of certain human specimens: the image of a personified brutal force and of an unethical and non-spiritual mind, yet inconsistent enough to exhibit traits of kindness and generosity besides a violent power-drive. It is the picture of a sort of nature-demon and at the same time of a primitive chieftain aggrandized to a colossal size, just the sort of conception one could expect of a more or less barbarous society–cum grano salis."

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Will Artificial Intellegence Make The Human Race Extinct?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think it is inevitable.

i don't worry about it but it just seems that the human race is going down a road that they can't make a turn off.. they are probing/discovering how the human mind works and produces intelligence down to the individual molecule.

now with the invention of the super quantum computer soon we will be able to build even better artificial intelligence greater than our own, so it will be easily able to out smart us because will we be a bunch of dumb apes first discovering how to make fire in it's eyes.. it will have it's own different agendas than us humans.

Brokeback Watchtower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elM4jgnHrKU

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Is Satan Real ?

by jdash in

i've been pondering on this question for awhile now, and i'm starting to think this malevolent spirit creature isn't real.

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do you guys believe satan is real?

Brokeback Watchtower

This blog talks about the collective unconscious(Jung).

http://www.thesectofthehornedgod.com/?p=2337

The Collective Unconscious:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious

On October 19, 1936, Jung delivered a lecture "The Concept of the Collective Unconscious" to the Abernethian Society at St. Bartholomew's Hospital in London.[6] He said:

My thesis then, is as follows: in addition to our immediate consciousness, which is of a thoroughly personal nature and which we believe to be the only empirical psyche (even if we tack on the personal unconscious as an appendix), there exists a second psychic system of a collective, universal, and impersonal nature which is identical in all individuals. This collective unconscious does not develop individually but is inherited. It consists of pre-existent forms, the archetypes, which can only become conscious secondarily and which give definite form to certain psychic contents.[7]

Jung linked the collective unconscious to 'what Freud called "archaic remnants" – mental forms whose presence cannot be explained by anything in the individual's own life and which seem to be aboriginal, innate, and inherited shapes of the human mind'.[8] He credited Freud for developing his "primal horde" theory in Totem and Taboo and continued further with the idea of an archaic ancestor maintaining its influence in the minds of present-day humans. Every human being, he wrote, "however high his conscious development, is still an archaic man at the deeper levels of his psyche."[9]

As modern humans go through their process of individuation, moving out of the collective unconscious into mature selves, they establish a persona—which can be understood simply as that small portion of the collective psyche which they embody, perform, and identify with.[10]

The collective unconscious exerts overwhelming influence on the minds of individuals. These effects of course vary widely, since they involve virtually every emotion and situation. At times, the collective unconscious can terrify, but it can also heal.

http://www.awakeninthedream.com/shedding-light-on-evil/

At the sight of evil, Jung continued, “Indignation leaps up, angry cries of ‘Justice!’ pursue the murderer, and they are louder, more impassioned and more charged with hate the more fiercely burns the fire of evil that has been lit in our souls.”[iii] When we see evil, if we react with moral indignation, cocksure of our own innocence and righteousness, this itself is an expression that we ourselves have become infected by evil and have become a conduit for evil to act itself out through us. Jung said of this, “True, we are innocent, we are the victims, robbed, betrayed, outraged; and yet for all that, or precisely because of it, the flame of evil glowers in our moral indignation.”[iv]When we see evil, it triggers a resonant darkness within us, as if we have secretly recognized a part of ourselves. It is important to understand that we could not look at the face of evil and truly see it unless we had that very same evil within ourselves. We wouldn’t be able to recognize it otherwise.When we see a deeper, archetypal energy such as evil, the fact that something within ourselves becomes touched and activated is analogous to what happens when we see and experience the unconscious as it manifests itself through others. It is impossible to see and experience the unconscious as it is played out in our world and remain a detached, passive witness. When we see the unconscious “out there,” our own unconscious is activated by the experience. The same is true when we witness evil.It is then a question of whether we can integrate what has been triggered in us, or do we inwardly dissociate from our own darkness, imagining it to be separate from ourselves, and project the evil “out there” onto some “other.” Projecting the shadow like this, Jung said, “…strengthens the opponent’s position in the most effective way, because the projection carries the fear which we involuntarily and secretly feel for our own evil over to the other side and considerably increases the formidableness of his threat.”[v] The dream-like nature of this world is such that if we project out our own darkness, the world will shape-shift and provide convincing evidence that the evil really does exist out there, which simply confirms to us our delusion in a never-ending, self-generating feedback loop.To the extent that any of us have withdrawn our projection of the shadow “out there,” we have begun, as Jung said, “…the only struggle that is really worthwhile: the fight against the overwhelming power-drive of the shadow.”[vi] For as Jung pointed out, every person:

“harbours within himself a dangerous shadow and adversary who is involved as an invisible helper in the dark machinations of the political monster. It is in the nature of political bodies always to see the evil in the opposite group, just as the individual has an ineradicable tendency to get rid of everything he does not know and does not want to know about himself by foisting it off on somebody else.”

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Winning The Battle For Your Mind Watchtower 7/15/2017

by Brokeback Watchtower in

you are under attack!

and your chief enemy, satan, is using a very dangerous weapon against you.

propaganda!

Brokeback Watchtower

Get a load of Anthony Morris recent Trinidad Talk. He covers a wide range of fanatical religious/corporation dos and don'ts but at minute 25 he talks about the Watchtower corporation being a cult. Enjoy/throw up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCN1w9-i3Ug

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Is Satan Real ?

by jdash in

i've been pondering on this question for awhile now, and i'm starting to think this malevolent spirit creature isn't real.

.

do you guys believe satan is real?

Brokeback Watchtower

I guess there is perhaps a Satan in our shadow and all kinds of other dark entities to mentioned in all the different mythologies.

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Is Satan Real ?

by jdash in

i've been pondering on this question for awhile now, and i'm starting to think this malevolent spirit creature isn't real.

.

do you guys believe satan is real?

Brokeback Watchtower

I think Ouija boards use your own unconscious to give answers to question you pose it. That being the case we have a repressed shadowy side and both good and evil archetypes(Jungian) residing in our unconscious and the Ouija board may give different part of our unconscious to say something to the Ego. I'm all for unrepressing our shadow side as a lot of creativity comes from doing so, but it has to be done intelligently so I don't recommend using the board for that as you might unleash more than you bargained for but basically I view it as more benign. Jung BTW had a medium niece that spoke with real wisdom but as for her ego persona she was pretty dim witted both. Jung himself was interested in the occult even though his farther was a vicar for some Christian faith.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archetype

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Winning The Battle For Your Mind Watchtower 7/15/2017

by Brokeback Watchtower in

you are under attack!

and your chief enemy, satan, is using a very dangerous weapon against you.

propaganda!

Brokeback Watchtower

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-july-2017/propaganda-winning-battle-for-your-mind/#?insight[search_id]=40b675c3-8208-494e-8498-127e67467971&insight[search_result_index]=0

Keep in mind that Satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well. Why? Because propaganda “is likely to be most effective,” says one source, “if people . . . are discouraged from thinking critically.” (Media and Society in the Twentieth Century) So never be content passively or blindly to accept what you hear. (Prov. 14: 15) Use your God-given thinking abilities and power of reason to make the truth your own.—Prov. 2:10-15; Rom. 12:1,

Wow, I can't believe they would be so bold or stupid as to say this, it fit them to a tee not Satan but the Watchtower corporation's hatred for critical thinking and higher education.

It is quite a stretch to believe in an invisible boogie man and think that he is behind all the worlds news media and legal systems when they mention some scandal about the Watchtower printing corporation.

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Is Satan Real ?

by jdash in

i've been pondering on this question for awhile now, and i'm starting to think this malevolent spirit creature isn't real.

.

do you guys believe satan is real?

Brokeback Watchtower

For all you denialists play on a Ouija board for an hour and see what happens.

And so are you say playing Ouija board will give you proof that he exist? BTW I played the board when I was around 14, and it told me the name of my future wife, the age I would be married and how many card games I was going to win, which all came true, but I don't see it as proof of Satan's existence.

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Ayahuasca The Soul Herb

by new boy in

i'm writing this tread for the people out there that are still looking for some kind of answers.

people who feel the void that any organized thought system can produce.

people who know there is more to this life than our daily routine which eventually will end, when we no longer exist.

Brokeback Watchtower

Okay this is a more light hearted video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vek-JL6BeTo